15 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- recommendation, 21 November 2006
Author:
rschmeec from United States
Gance seems overwhelmed by the theme of humanity crushed by incredible
suffering, and some of the symbolism may seem heavy-handed, but this
film deserves to be listed among the greats for its wonderful
cinematography, the strong contrasts between the first parts portrayal
of trains and the second parts moving to the beautiful, impassive
scenery of the high Alps.
I have always been an admirer of Gance's Napoleon, but his J'accuse
turned me off. La Roue has restored my desire to see the others: La fin
de monde, Beethoven, and Austerlitz.
As for the suffering, this was made in 1921 in the aftermath of WW I,
which is sufficient to account for Gance's obsession with the theme.
9 out of 16 people found the following comment useful :- Watching the wheels, 6 May 2006
Author:
dbdumonteil
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Let's put is straight: "la roue" is a very long movie and ,in spite of
its very high rating,it's not for all tastes.It was initially an
eight-hour movie,the IMDb gives a 273 min running time ,but the version
which circulates in France does not exceed three hours:is that all?
Unlike "J'accuse" and "Napoleon" ,I would
not go as far as saying that "La roue" has not aged a bit.For it
has,particularly the screenplay which consists of a dreadful
melodrama.As a story teller ,Gance does not equal his American
counterpart David Wark Griffith whose "Intolerance' (the "modern"
segments) might have influenced him.
Gance's work ,even cut to three hours is still too long and its several
incredible moments get buried in the whole .Because ,technically,the
film is often a tour de force: the train accident will take your breath
away;the way Gance blends his characters with the things which surround
them was innovative. .He does not forget fantasizing: the stained-glass
window which gives birth to a three-dimensional world where Elie and
Norma can live an imaginary happy life which they will never know.His
death in the mountains.Sisif's silhouette ,his big cross on his
shoulder ,climbing a Golgotha-like peak.But I would put the last scene
above all:Sisif is dying and a small engine falls from his hand;he has
hallucinations as a giant train appears in the sky;and a group of
mountaineers ,dancing in a ring,and going away ,becoming a tiny
circle.....the final wheel.
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :- Beautifully made movie!, 14 July 2007
Author:
Boba_Fett1138 from Groningen, The Netherlands
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
This is not only a greatly made and constructed movie with a nice
story, it's also visually a great one to watch, with lots of style in
it and with some wonderful cinematography. The movie even features some
early moving camera shots.
The train-crash in the beginning of the movie (which is a real classic
in my book!) is brought really great to the screen, with some nice fast
cuts to build up the tension. It's done in a way you normally wouldn't
expect from a '20's movie. The movie features a couple of more
sequences like this. Apparently this is the First ever movie that
features 'rapid' editing in it, a technique pioneered by Abel Gance.
The movie doesn't use that many title cards and the movie mostly uses
its images to speak for itself. It's perhaps also one of the reasons
why the movie is much longer (depending on which version you're
watching of course) than most others but it Works pleasant that the
movie doesn't use that many title cards. It makes the movie a real
visual orientated one and its, once again, fast editing makes sure that
the movie never drags and no sequences ever become overlong, with of
course still a couple of exceptions here and there.
The movie is made with lots of style and the directing is great. It
features some great style filled sequences such as a couple of
'dream-like' sequences, point-of-view shots, use of shadows only and
use of mirrors, among many other things.
The story itself is original, even today. It's basically a love-story
but an unusual one, when both father and son (among others) fall for
the same girl, who also happens to be the adopted daughter. It provides
the movie with some nice typical (melodramatic) genre elements that all
feel original and well conceived. Especially the way the father gets
torn and confused by the love for the girl is done in a great way,
although the whole part when the father tries to commit suicide gets
perhaps stretched out a bit too much. The movie takes some nice
dramatic twists that also add to the movie its originality. Abel Glance
obviously also knew how to tell a story well! The last third of the
movie is definitely the most powerful. Lots of dramatic events occur
that work out really well. Also the ending is definitely one worth
remembering!
The movie is obviously old fashioned and so it the acting. Totally
unacceptable by todays standards of course but it adds all the more to
the movie its nostalgic and classic feeling of the earliest days of
cinema.
A must-see for every movie lover! Absolutely one of the greatest!
10/10
Classic, 20 June 2008
Author:
MichaelElliott1 from Louisville, KY
Roue, La (1923)
*** 1/2 (out of 4)
French master Abel Gance's 260-minute epic tells the story of Sisif
(Severin-Mars), a railroad worker who discovers a young girl named
Norma after a horrible train wreck. Sisif takes the girl home to his
young son Elie where he plans on raising them as brother and sister.
Flash forward several years and Elie (Gabriel de Gravone) has started
to fall in love with Norma (Ivy Close) even though he thinks she is his
sister. At the same time Sisif has also fallen in love with her, which
leads the two men down a road of tragedy. A lot of the epic films
released after The Birth of a Nation dealt with epic themes, usually
something to do with war, but that's not the case here as you would
call this a film that deals in melodrama and character study. It's
rather amazing that Gance would try to take this material and push it
to over eight hours, which was the original running time. I was a
little worried going into this version, running 260-minutes but it
turned out to be a great beauty of a film. I really don't think the
film ran too long and in fact, the running time goes by quite fast but
the only thing I'd question is some of the stuff that we go through two
or three times. This includes one character attempting suicide numerous
times and I think this could have been handled in a different way. The
legendary editing is the main highlight of this film as it goes in a
maniac style way. There are numerous edits each second during certain
scenes and I'm really not sure if it could be done better even with
today's standards. Even though the editing is quite sharp and fast, it
never gets in the way of the story trying to be told. Another
fascinating aspect is when the main character starts to go blind. The
director then turns the visuals on screen to an all white setting to
where we're seeing things just like the character who is going blind.
the final sequences of the film are quite beautiful and haunting and
really puts everything we've seen before it into justice. I think for
the most part that the performances are good but I think at times the
director would have been wise to bring them down a little bit.
Severin-Mars really steals the film as the love struck father who is
slowly losing his mind, life and eyes due to the love his has for the
girl he raised as his daughter. Close gives the weakest performance of
the three but she still handles the screen quite well. La Roue is
certainly a demanding film to sit through but at the end of the film I
was quite happy to take the ride and this is certainly a film that
every film buff should see at least once in their life.
1 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :- An amazing but practically unwatchable film!, 18 May 2008
Author:
planktonrules from Bradenton, Florida
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
This film is a very, very, very long movie about a railroad engineer
who's infatuated with his adoptive daughter. While somewhat incestuous
and creepy, it gets worse as her brother who does NOT know that she
isn't his biological sister also falls for her! In fact, practically
every man around this sweet young lady goes mad and is willing to kill
to possess her!
This is a very hard film to rate and I am sure I'll irritate legions of
old movie buffs when I say that despite LA ROUE being an amazing film
with wonderful cinematography, it is also a MAJOR chore to force
yourself to watch the entire film. I really feel sorry for the initial
audiences for the movie, as it was an 8 1/2 hour film! Then, because no
sane audience wanted to see such an interminably long film, it was
trimmed to 5 hours. Today, a recently restored version is almost 4
hours--and in my opinion, this is STILL way too long. An hour and a
half EASILY could have been trimmed, as the film had way too many
lengthy shots of nothing in particular, artsy shots, scenes and plot
elements that were irrelevant and scenes that just went on too long. I
understand that this was Abel Gance's artistic vision, but he just
didn't exercise restraint. The film still desperately needed a good
editing.
The same dilemma exists when you hear discussions about Erich Von
Stroheim's GREED. For years on IMDb, I have watched the silent film
board abound with comments about how sad it is that his original 9 hour
film no longer exists. Von Stroheim threw a giant temper tantrum back
in 1924 when the studio insisted it be trimmed because of a stupid need
to actually make money from his 30003023 reel behemoth and ever since
people in the know have longed to see the original. Well, I saw the
shortened version of GREED and it was a pretty good film--thus making
me some sort of Neanderthal.
Now I am NOT saying all films need to be short--I love a good 3 hour
epic and have even seen the Russian version of WAR AND PEACE twice and
it's almost 7 hours long. Heck, I saw both mini-series WAR AND
REMEMBRANCE and WINDS OF WAR (at about 32 hours long), so I like long
things if there's a need. A film about the origins of WWII and WWII
itself justified the excessive length.
So what am I trying to say? Well, long is just fine when the plot will
sustain it and there is a legitimate reason to make such a long and
complex film. Films about very, very complex events justify being long.
A rather simple plot like you have in LA ROUE about a rather crazed
man's infatuation with his adopted daughter just didn't justify so many
reels of film.
The bottom line is that while I respect LA ROUE for being so
ground-breaking, beautiful to watch and artfully made, it just made me
want to watch it on DVD while using the fast forward button! Okay,
silent film snobs--get ready with the "not helpful" comments! Before
you slam me, do understand that I have watched and reviewed more silent
films than practically anyone so far on IMDb, so I DON'T hate
silents--I love them in fact. It's just that I couldn't for the life of
me encourage non-silent lovers to watch LA ROUE--as it will probably
make them think that silent films are bad or outdated. There are so
many great silent films waiting to be seen and only a very, very
patient audience could possibly sit through this film.
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15 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-
recommendation, 21 November 2006
Author: rschmeec from United States
Gance seems overwhelmed by the theme of humanity crushed by incredible suffering, and some of the symbolism may seem heavy-handed, but this film deserves to be listed among the greats for its wonderful cinematography, the strong contrasts between the first parts portrayal of trains and the second parts moving to the beautiful, impassive scenery of the high Alps.
I have always been an admirer of Gance's Napoleon, but his J'accuse turned me off. La Roue has restored my desire to see the others: La fin de monde, Beethoven, and Austerlitz.
As for the suffering, this was made in 1921 in the aftermath of WW I, which is sufficient to account for Gance's obsession with the theme.
9 out of 16 people found the following comment useful :-
Watching the wheels, 6 May 2006
Author: dbdumonteil
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Let's put is straight: "la roue" is a very long movie and ,in spite of its very high rating,it's not for all tastes.It was initially an eight-hour movie,the IMDb gives a 273 min running time ,but the version which circulates in France does not exceed three hours:is that all?
Unlike "J'accuse" and "Napoleon" ,I would
not go as far as saying that "La roue" has not aged a bit.For it has,particularly the screenplay which consists of a dreadful melodrama.As a story teller ,Gance does not equal his American counterpart David Wark Griffith whose "Intolerance' (the "modern" segments) might have influenced him.
Gance's work ,even cut to three hours is still too long and its several incredible moments get buried in the whole .Because ,technically,the film is often a tour de force: the train accident will take your breath away;the way Gance blends his characters with the things which surround them was innovative. .He does not forget fantasizing: the stained-glass window which gives birth to a three-dimensional world where Elie and Norma can live an imaginary happy life which they will never know.His death in the mountains.Sisif's silhouette ,his big cross on his shoulder ,climbing a Golgotha-like peak.But I would put the last scene above all:Sisif is dying and a small engine falls from his hand;he has hallucinations as a giant train appears in the sky;and a group of mountaineers ,dancing in a ring,and going away ,becoming a tiny circle.....the final wheel.
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :-

Beautifully made movie!, 14 July 2007
Author: Boba_Fett1138 from Groningen, The Netherlands
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
This is not only a greatly made and constructed movie with a nice story, it's also visually a great one to watch, with lots of style in it and with some wonderful cinematography. The movie even features some early moving camera shots.
The train-crash in the beginning of the movie (which is a real classic in my book!) is brought really great to the screen, with some nice fast cuts to build up the tension. It's done in a way you normally wouldn't expect from a '20's movie. The movie features a couple of more sequences like this. Apparently this is the First ever movie that features 'rapid' editing in it, a technique pioneered by Abel Gance.
The movie doesn't use that many title cards and the movie mostly uses its images to speak for itself. It's perhaps also one of the reasons why the movie is much longer (depending on which version you're watching of course) than most others but it Works pleasant that the movie doesn't use that many title cards. It makes the movie a real visual orientated one and its, once again, fast editing makes sure that the movie never drags and no sequences ever become overlong, with of course still a couple of exceptions here and there.
The movie is made with lots of style and the directing is great. It features some great style filled sequences such as a couple of 'dream-like' sequences, point-of-view shots, use of shadows only and use of mirrors, among many other things.
The story itself is original, even today. It's basically a love-story but an unusual one, when both father and son (among others) fall for the same girl, who also happens to be the adopted daughter. It provides the movie with some nice typical (melodramatic) genre elements that all feel original and well conceived. Especially the way the father gets torn and confused by the love for the girl is done in a great way, although the whole part when the father tries to commit suicide gets perhaps stretched out a bit too much. The movie takes some nice dramatic twists that also add to the movie its originality. Abel Glance obviously also knew how to tell a story well! The last third of the movie is definitely the most powerful. Lots of dramatic events occur that work out really well. Also the ending is definitely one worth remembering!
The movie is obviously old fashioned and so it the acting. Totally unacceptable by todays standards of course but it adds all the more to the movie its nostalgic and classic feeling of the earliest days of cinema.
A must-see for every movie lover! Absolutely one of the greatest!
10/10
Classic, 20 June 2008
Author: MichaelElliott1 from Louisville, KY
Roue, La (1923)
*** 1/2 (out of 4)
French master Abel Gance's 260-minute epic tells the story of Sisif (Severin-Mars), a railroad worker who discovers a young girl named Norma after a horrible train wreck. Sisif takes the girl home to his young son Elie where he plans on raising them as brother and sister. Flash forward several years and Elie (Gabriel de Gravone) has started to fall in love with Norma (Ivy Close) even though he thinks she is his sister. At the same time Sisif has also fallen in love with her, which leads the two men down a road of tragedy. A lot of the epic films released after The Birth of a Nation dealt with epic themes, usually something to do with war, but that's not the case here as you would call this a film that deals in melodrama and character study. It's rather amazing that Gance would try to take this material and push it to over eight hours, which was the original running time. I was a little worried going into this version, running 260-minutes but it turned out to be a great beauty of a film. I really don't think the film ran too long and in fact, the running time goes by quite fast but the only thing I'd question is some of the stuff that we go through two or three times. This includes one character attempting suicide numerous times and I think this could have been handled in a different way. The legendary editing is the main highlight of this film as it goes in a maniac style way. There are numerous edits each second during certain scenes and I'm really not sure if it could be done better even with today's standards. Even though the editing is quite sharp and fast, it never gets in the way of the story trying to be told. Another fascinating aspect is when the main character starts to go blind. The director then turns the visuals on screen to an all white setting to where we're seeing things just like the character who is going blind. the final sequences of the film are quite beautiful and haunting and really puts everything we've seen before it into justice. I think for the most part that the performances are good but I think at times the director would have been wise to bring them down a little bit. Severin-Mars really steals the film as the love struck father who is slowly losing his mind, life and eyes due to the love his has for the girl he raised as his daughter. Close gives the weakest performance of the three but she still handles the screen quite well. La Roue is certainly a demanding film to sit through but at the end of the film I was quite happy to take the ride and this is certainly a film that every film buff should see at least once in their life.
1 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :-

An amazing but practically unwatchable film!, 18 May 2008
Author: planktonrules from Bradenton, Florida
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
This film is a very, very, very long movie about a railroad engineer who's infatuated with his adoptive daughter. While somewhat incestuous and creepy, it gets worse as her brother who does NOT know that she isn't his biological sister also falls for her! In fact, practically every man around this sweet young lady goes mad and is willing to kill to possess her!
This is a very hard film to rate and I am sure I'll irritate legions of old movie buffs when I say that despite LA ROUE being an amazing film with wonderful cinematography, it is also a MAJOR chore to force yourself to watch the entire film. I really feel sorry for the initial audiences for the movie, as it was an 8 1/2 hour film! Then, because no sane audience wanted to see such an interminably long film, it was trimmed to 5 hours. Today, a recently restored version is almost 4 hours--and in my opinion, this is STILL way too long. An hour and a half EASILY could have been trimmed, as the film had way too many lengthy shots of nothing in particular, artsy shots, scenes and plot elements that were irrelevant and scenes that just went on too long. I understand that this was Abel Gance's artistic vision, but he just didn't exercise restraint. The film still desperately needed a good editing.
The same dilemma exists when you hear discussions about Erich Von Stroheim's GREED. For years on IMDb, I have watched the silent film board abound with comments about how sad it is that his original 9 hour film no longer exists. Von Stroheim threw a giant temper tantrum back in 1924 when the studio insisted it be trimmed because of a stupid need to actually make money from his 30003023 reel behemoth and ever since people in the know have longed to see the original. Well, I saw the shortened version of GREED and it was a pretty good film--thus making me some sort of Neanderthal.
Now I am NOT saying all films need to be short--I love a good 3 hour epic and have even seen the Russian version of WAR AND PEACE twice and it's almost 7 hours long. Heck, I saw both mini-series WAR AND REMEMBRANCE and WINDS OF WAR (at about 32 hours long), so I like long things if there's a need. A film about the origins of WWII and WWII itself justified the excessive length.
So what am I trying to say? Well, long is just fine when the plot will sustain it and there is a legitimate reason to make such a long and complex film. Films about very, very complex events justify being long. A rather simple plot like you have in LA ROUE about a rather crazed man's infatuation with his adopted daughter just didn't justify so many reels of film.
The bottom line is that while I respect LA ROUE for being so ground-breaking, beautiful to watch and artfully made, it just made me want to watch it on DVD while using the fast forward button! Okay, silent film snobs--get ready with the "not helpful" comments! Before you slam me, do understand that I have watched and reviewed more silent films than practically anyone so far on IMDb, so I DON'T hate silents--I love them in fact. It's just that I couldn't for the life of me encourage non-silent lovers to watch LA ROUE--as it will probably make them think that silent films are bad or outdated. There are so many great silent films waiting to be seen and only a very, very patient audience could possibly sit through this film.
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